Ken Miller on Intelligent Design

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Ken Miller's talk on Intelligent Design at Case Western University. Ken Miller basically rips Intelligent Design apart in a 2 hour long exposé of the claims of intelligent design and the tactics that creationists employ to get it shoehorned into the American school system.

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Uploaded: January 6, 2006 at 2:12 am
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Length: 01:57:10
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Erech01 (October 11, 2008 at 10:01 am)
'Therefore, the universe is dying'

wrong, the universe is NOT alive it cannot therefore die.

'It is not eternal'

tell that to the first law of thermodynamics.

'Naturalism cannot do '

natralism is somthing which science (REAL scence) builds itself around, naturalism didnt create the universe, GRAVITy did, along with some other physical processes such as fussion.
Erech01 (October 11, 2008 at 9:58 am)
'the earths magnetic field & the speed of light decaying, harmful cosmic radiation destroying material such as the scuff deep lunar dust for example. '

yes, materials are destoryed, not atoms, different laws apply to atoms, its one of the many things which annoy physicists to this day, atoms themselves seem to have their own laws;)

and the speed of light is not decayng, its a universal constant unaffected by anything else, thats why physicists represent it as 'c' for constant
Erech01 (October 11, 2008 at 9:55 am)
'Darwin made no such prediction.'

yes he did

'are several fossils out of order'

no their isnt.


'The Cambrian Explosion has 100 phyla without transitional forms to bacteria below'

bacteria CANNOT fossilize, to fossilize you need somthing hard which will last long enough to be replaced by minerals, like bones.
Wonko101 (October 11, 2008 at 8:38 am)
Evolution tells us that creatures come from other creatures with features of the parent creature but with changes to suit the enviroment. This is exactly what occured in the Cambrian explosion and other "explosions" such as the Avalon explosion. This is exactly what is found in the fossil record. Fossils of creatures that share features of the previous but with features that the earlier fossils do not have.
Wonko101 (October 11, 2008 at 8:34 am)
Regarding "fossils out of order":It is entirely possible for the rock around a fossil to be eroded, and the fossil to then be buried in younger sediment. This is common enough that real geologists have a technical term for such "re-fossils"; that term is 'reworked'. This is not a catch-all excuse, as creationists will suspect immediately, since there are clues determining whether a fossil is reworked.
Wonko101 (October 11, 2008 at 8:32 am)
5.There have been other major radiations besides the Cambrian Explosion, including the Ordovician radiation, which saw the diversification of trilobites, echinoderms and brachiopods, as well as the rise of true corals, and the Devonian radiation, which saw another re-radiation of trilobite species, as well as the rise and diversification of sharks, ray-finned fish, lobe-finned fish, placoderms, and acanthodians.
Wonko101 (October 11, 2008 at 8:31 am)
4.The evolution of complex organisms requires all the basic components of complex life (i.e. the ability to produce bone-like structures, hormonal regulation etc). The precambrian explosion simply indicates the point in time when all the necessary substrates of complex animals arrived allowing for the creation of all the different phyla.
Wonko101 (October 11, 2008 at 8:31 am)
3.One quite relevant element in the Cambrian explosion is that at this time some life forms appear to have only recently evolved the ability of incorporating calcium as calcium carbonate into their bodies, vastly increasing the chances of them appearing as fossils.
Wonko101 (October 11, 2008 at 8:29 am)
1.The Cambrian "explosion" was about 50 million years long, from start to finish. To call a 50-million-year-long event "sudden" is to implicitly accept an evolutionary timescale of a few billion years, not a YEC timescale of a few thousand years.
2.There was complex life before the Cambrian and pre-cursors of many of the major groups have been found, including pre-Cambrian vertebrates.
Wonko101 (October 11, 2008 at 8:13 am)
Sorry, not true. There are fossils of pre-cambrian life that show features of the cambrian. Good try.