Noel Gallagher on The Smiths

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Noel Gallagher talks about Morrissey and Johnny Marr.

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Uploaded: April 10, 2006 at 12:43 pm
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pegbey (December 4, 2008 at 6:33 pm)
There's probably thousands of painters who can reproduce the Mona Lisa more accurately than Picasso could it doesn't make them greater painters. So why distinguish great guitarists from great artists who play the guitar? Beyond a certain level of technical competence, surely a great guitarist is someone who can use their instrument to express something beautiful/original/moving. Johnny 'weird c**t' Marr certainly fits that description better than most of the top technicians (Satriani, etc.)!
it412 (December 3, 2008 at 4:11 pm)
i hate this man
AlbinoScout (December 3, 2008 at 3:28 pm)
Kurt Cobain was a legendary guitarist and he wasn't very good at all. You're making too much of a connection between guitarist and legendary. You can be legendary without being the best at what you do technically. If you're a guitar player and write songs that influence people so much that 20 years later, bands are coming out trying to sound like you, you're legendary. And Marr was a guitarist. So he's a legendary guitarist. Pretty simple. This whole post punk revival is a Smiths tribute.
digitised (December 3, 2008 at 4:22 pm)
You see you are repeating the same fallacy.

Kurt cobain made very successful music and he happened to play his music on a guitar.
He also did some wrestling at school...
Does that mean he was a legendary wrestler?

Of course not!

You judge these things individually on merit.

Kurt knew basic chords, he could never compete with any skilled player in any style of his choice. Any able person could play as good as kurt within 1 year of learning, and that is a fact.
nickrock23 (December 3, 2008 at 5:57 pm)
i don't disagree with you on kurt, but you cannot separate songwriting ability from technical ability. you act like all these dudes are gods, i am telling you there are tens of thousands of kids all over the world in good music schools that can easily outplay any famous guitarist you or i could think of. thats why i am saying u cannot separate, if you did, then the guys we admire on technical ability alone goes out the window. we're talking about pop/rock/fusion players here, not mozart
ghostscantkill (December 3, 2008 at 1:49 pm)
I like Noel and Liam Gallagher.I respect Noel for him admitting that someone else is better than him.
nickrock23 (December 2, 2008 at 7:14 pm)
and for the record, those guys you mentioned, as well as trevor and steve and everyone else, there are cats playing in restaurants with more technical skills. don't be so pompous unless you can back it up with basic knowledge of the instrument and musicianship. if you wanna throw songwriting out of the equation, in the grand scheme of things, our guitar heroes might as well be working at the snack bar cause there are 11 yr old bucktooth cockeyed girls in julliard who play better than holdsworth
digitised (December 3, 2008 at 4:12 pm)
There are certainly skilled people who are not famous, just stuck playing small crowds but seriously have you ever even heard shawn lane?

The guy was practically unkown outside of a small home community and the so called elite guitarists who would have parties to watch his bootleg videos.

He was exceptional and has revealed more techniques and ideas which are now widely studied by top players than anyone else of the last 30 years.

If you know of other players better, please tell me.
nickrock23 (December 2, 2008 at 7:04 pm)
you sound like someone who's never played guitar. your argument is something like 'steve howe is better than trevor rabin'. even if this is true, steve can't play LIKE trevor and vice versa. the argument is just retarded, no matter what side you take. holdsworth, eric johnson, whoever, i don't care how good he is, you give him a guitar and tell him to accurately recreate marr riffs he will be baffled for hours and most likely NEVER hit every note and that is a fact dude
digitised (December 3, 2008 at 4:04 pm)
Actually ive played guitar for nearly 11 years, and my argument is not about comparing apples and oranges.

I said just because marr makes good music does not make him a great guitar player. Likewise you could not say he was a great mathematician because of his songs and his GCSE maths grade B.

Hence you cannot exaggerate unrelated skills.


His guitar playing is terribly basic, anyone who has played seriously for 3+ years would have no problem nailing his riffs.