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RYAN WIEBER VS. MICHAEL "DORKMAN" SCOTT

What began as a friendly rivalry between two effects artists explodes off TheForce.Net's FanFilms Forum and into the real world in a lightsaber battle royale.

Originally created for the forum's lightsaber choreography competition, this fight to the death will decide once and for all who is truly most skilled with a saber.

There can be only one.



(I did not make this short film, stop asking me how I made the special effects. Its a mix of rotoscoping, photoshop and After Effects.)


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FAQs (from ryanvsdorkman.com)

How did you do those lightsaber effects?
We used Adobe After Effects to rotoscope the prop blades and add glows to them. Essentially the same way ILM does it. After Effects was also used for a variety of other visual effects you see (or don't see) in RvD.

How long did it take you to make this, and when did it come out?
We choreographed and filmed over the course of three weekends, and spent about 4 months on the effects in our spare time, finishing March 1st, 2003.

Did you guys have any martial arts or sword training when you made this?
Neither of us had any formal training of any kind at the time of making RvD. Just watched a lot of movies.


Where was this shot, and what is that thing in the background?
RvD was filmed at Carco Electronics, who built flight simulators for the aerospace industry. The machine in the background is a satellite tracking positioner, the specifications of which were top secret. After the machine was finished being built, it was shipped off to an "undisclosed location".

Where did you get the lightsaber props you guys are fighting with?
The saber props were actually built for this. They were made in several parts using a lathe, mill, and other metalworking tools. Aluminum tubing (like you can find at your local hardware store) were used for the blades.

What kind of camera did you film with?
Canon GL-1 camcorder.

Channel: Entertainment
Uploaded: March 14, 2006 at 8:39 am
Author: maniacmike

Length: 00:05:09
Rating: 4.82
Views: 3279315

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Video Comments:
r4f4st4n1 (August 28, 2008 at 5:26 pm)
strongbad86 stop expressing ur feelings
jatube87 (August 28, 2008 at 4:26 pm)
well done... i like the sound, making the sound like in the movies is more difficult than the lightsabre effect..
malachiparker1985 (August 28, 2008 at 4:23 pm)
watch?v=9CpGKEVLSVo
shurtugal81 (August 28, 2008 at 3:52 pm)
that was awsome i wonder how stinking long that took
strongbad89 (August 28, 2008 at 3:17 pm)
gayiest shit ever
LongbowAH64 (August 28, 2008 at 2:25 pm)
The endig was such an overkill XD.
rocker2426 (August 28, 2008 at 1:33 pm)
WOW!! 5 stars

I have always wanted to know how you do that
ianttyang (August 28, 2008 at 10:21 am)
i've never liked star wars, but i think i'll watch it after this!
edv11nas (August 28, 2008 at 9:55 am)
Finally, a normal fight with lightsabers (got bored of those low quality movies :D)
oldmanpoodle (August 28, 2008 at 7:30 am)
DUDE! MY GLASSES! My dad's gonna be so pissed!!!


Dorkman wins. His fighting style is miles above the other kid.